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Post by EtherBunny on Feb 10, 2016 21:50:19 GMT
i give up, i can't figure it out, i tag out and wave my white flag while screaming uncle. how the hell is score calculated?
the only thing i've come to the conclusion on how the game magically arrives at this number is that the battle report does NOT give you all the statistics you need to calculate it yourself.
you get kills, deaths, assists, and damage data. i've paid close attention i thought i was close to coming up with a ballpark idea and a battle i just had totally loml'd my ballpark.
worn, bruised, dirty, tired, and defeated...i ask you...how does one arrive at this number?
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Post by NGnius on Feb 10, 2016 22:32:48 GMT
I think it is calculated with a few different variables that aren't offered by the score screen - things like protonium destroyed and such. I think if you look at your after battle score thing (the one that shows the RP your earned), that gives you all the variables you need.
But don't quote me on this, since I'm not actually sure either and I haven't tried.
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Post by EtherBunny on Feb 11, 2016 2:16:05 GMT
oh yea...that other battle report....i'll check it thanks. that's why they call you supreme leader...so smart  |
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Post by NGnius on Feb 11, 2016 13:50:32 GMT
oh yea...that other battle report....i'll check it thanks. that's why they call you supreme leader...so smart :D Lol, I'm sure some people would disagree that I'm smart, but I know my Robocraft stuff... usually |
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Post by rollercoaster123 on Feb 11, 2016 15:31:28 GMT
how the hell is score calculated? Not sure exactly how the score is calculated, i do know how the rp is calculated, mostly, what im guessing is that deaths don't really affect your score, but im not totally sure, kills and assists are multipliers, and the rest probably just flat out added to the score itself, but then again, not sure. I'm going to dissect RC to see if their formula is in there, stuff is mostly encrypted, or put in a weird format, anyway, i won't bother with that, chances are they do it server-side, but how I've seen RC, a lot of unnecessary stuff is in there, might even get a lead on the new DSM, since before the aeroflak they implemented aeroflak cruiser, tank etc. as a class ( robot class, not the other one  ), will come back and post if i find anything. |
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Post by EtherBunny on Feb 11, 2016 17:12:37 GMT
how the hell is score calculated? Not sure exactly how the score is calculated, i do know how the rp is calculated, mostly, what im guessing is that deaths don't really affect your score, but im not totally sure, kills and assists are multipliers, and the rest probably just flat out added to the score itself, but then again, not sure. I'm going to dissect RC to see if their formula is in there, stuff is mostly encrypted, or put in a weird format, anyway, i won't bother with that, chances are they do it server-side, but how I've seen RC, a lot of unnecessary stuff is in there, might even get a lead on the new DSM, since before the aeroflak they implemented aeroflak cruiser, tank etc. as a class ( robot class, not the other one ), will come back and post if i find anything. suh weet! the reason i thought the first battle report was used to determine score was the other report doesn't list score. thinking of them like spreadsheets, score is listed on this one, not this one...so that's the data i need....silly me. i agree with you on deaths, i don't think they matter. however that's actually the exact reason i want to figure this out. one of my tactics in league is a kamikaze kill right before we take a tower. so i respawn immediately and the enemy is down a player for their timer. when i use this method, obviously i have a high death rate. just wondering if there's a price to pay for that. so how is rp calculated? i was thinking rp was based off score with robot ranking as the multiplier. is that incorrect? |
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Post by rollercoaster123 on Feb 11, 2016 19:31:01 GMT
suh weet! the reason i thought the first battle report was used to determine score was the other report doesn't list score. thinking of them like spreadsheets, score is listed on this one, not this one...so that's the data i need....silly me. i agree with you on deaths, i don't think they matter. however that's actually the exact reason i want to figure this out. one of my tactics in league is a kamikaze kill right before we take a tower. so i respawn immediately and the enemy is down a player for their timer. when i use this method, obviously i have a high death rate. just wondering if there's a price to pay for that. so how is rp calculated? i was thinking rp was based off score with robot ranking as the multiplier. is that incorrect? That's incorrect, the way RP was calculated during the old days, since before the leaderboard, it was based off of kills, cpu damage, assists scouts.. everything, scouts cpu damage and the like were just flat out added to the overall RP, kills and assists, as well as capping the base where multiplier, keep in mind though, i have done this a loooong time ago, not sure how it's implemented with the score system, considering the second battle report is still there it might not at all be implemented with the actual score, since me and my friend have played many matches, and haven't seen a connection between score ( the total score, not the individuals ) and RP gains, often i was lower in the leaderboard than him, and still got a lot of RP, while he got less, also i have come up empty, after several hours of searching i haven't found the formula, neither have i gotten a lead on the new DSM stuff, but i have seen that the robot class has been updated to have the new rockets included, so why exactly are we still using classes client-side if we aren't shown them? IDK, but there might be a way to show classes client-side, maybe. |
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Post by theendgame on Feb 11, 2016 23:30:46 GMT
Well, I know that a month or so ago, Protonium destroyed was given a massive increase in your overall RP earnings. The scoreboard doesn't display that. I agree with Ngnius that the thing after the battle might show everything tho.
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Post by tugamos on Feb 12, 2016 1:50:19 GMT
Hi, I did 5 battles to get some stats, but i fail to collect data from the first BA fight. The final RP earned is the value without the Premium bonus.  The 1st battle as the easiest battle for me, all robots using same tier weapons as me. The 2nd easy to. After the 2nd the battles became really hard people using high RR weapons, also there is a tresseract(or what name have that thing) in the 5th battle. So my final conclusion is: -Scoring more dont give you more RP; -The winner get 2x more score; -Dont know if your RR vs other players RR affect the score, but pretty sure it dont; -Playing against higher RR players with the same RR robot, reward more RP. |
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Post by NGnius on Feb 12, 2016 17:30:40 GMT
Hi, I did 5 battles to get some stats, but i fail to collect data from the first BA fight. The final RP earned is the value without the Premium bonus. The 1st battle as the easiest battle for me, all robots using same tier weapons as me. The 2nd easy to. After the 2nd the battles became really hard people using high RR weapons, also there is a tresseract(or what name have that thing) in the 5th battle. So my final conclusion is: -Scoring more dont give you more RP; -The winner get 2x more score; -Dont know if your RR vs other players RR affect the score, but pretty sure it dont; -Playing against higher RR players with the same RR robot, reward more RP. Interesting findings... perhaps we can find the whole system out by collecting a large amount of data... anyone who wants to, feel free to post as much info as you can about your games (TDM or BA, but please say), and we will try and reverse engineer it... ok that's the second time today I've endorsed something against RC rules... |
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Post by EtherBunny on Feb 12, 2016 21:51:26 GMT
i've been taking screenshots of both battle reports for just this reason. i'll post some stuff soon |
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Post by rollercoaster123 on Feb 12, 2016 22:15:09 GMT
i've been taking screenshots of both battle reports for just this reason. i'll post some stuff soon Since the leaderboard update i have been taking screenshots of my fights and the RP i got, i just need to dig it up. Will post it in like 10-12 hours. WARNING! It'll probably be big, very big. |
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Post by tugamos on Feb 12, 2016 23:42:06 GMT
hehe, you guys are really excited in uncover the secret formula.
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Post by NGnius on Feb 13, 2016 0:09:16 GMT
hehe, you guys are really excited in uncover the secret formula. It's fun! Sort of like (blindly) searching for a bug in 1000 lines of code - slow but completely worth it. |
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Post by rollercoaster123 on Feb 13, 2016 13:27:02 GMT
No.
| Damage | Kills | Heal
| Deaths | Assists | Scouting
| Spotting
| Base Capture/Protonium Destroyed*
| Robot Ranking
| Score
| Bot Type
| Game
| RP
| 1
| 5742
| 2 | 0 | 0
| 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 25k | 394
| Plasma
| TDM
| 310947
| 2
| 2376 | 0 | 0 | 1
| 1 | 1 | 1 | 0
| 25k | 180
| Rail
| TDM
| 114167
| 3
| 600 | 1 | 0 | 0
| 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 25k | 145
| Rail
| TDM
| 82976
| 4
| 5959 | 2 | 0 | 0
| 4 | 2 | 3 | 309 | 25k | 2058
| Rail
| BA
| 121166
| 5
| 2456 | 1 | 0 | 0
| 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 25k | 217
| Missile
| TDM
| 146090
| 6
| 7363 | 1 | 0 | 0
| 5 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 25k??? | 383
| Megabot
| TDM
| 602905
| 7
| 3072 | 2 | 0 | 0
| 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 25k | 279
| Plasma
| TDM
| 195610
| 8
| 3024 | 2 | 0 | 1
| 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 25k | 219
| Tesla/Plasma
| TDM
| 127867
| 9
| 3005 | 1 | 0 | 0
| 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 25k | 252
| Plasma
| TDM
| 215477
| 10
| 5102
| 1
| 0
| 0
| 3
| 4
| 1
| 0
| 25k
| 290
| SMG
| TDM
| 304877
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), will come back and post if i find anything.
